Tales from the Field with Tim Weddington

Hunting Matters With Joe Betar

Tim Weddington shares his passion for hunting and the outdoors, discussing the offerings at 10 Gauge Outfitters. They provide bird hunting, prairie dog shooting, deer hunting, and turkey hunting, ensuring a memorable experience for all guests.

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Introduction to Hunting Matters

Joe Betar  (00:06):

This is Joe Bear. This is Ramon Robles and we talk to fascinating people about their love of hunting, shooting sports and the outdoors. This is hunting matters.

Hey, Ramon. Yes, sir. I got a riddle for you. Alright. What do prairie dogs? Turkeys, quail dove and deer have in common. I have no idea. Come on. Think about it.

Ramon Robles  (00:32):

Four legs. No, no, you can hunt them.

Joe Betar (00:37 ):

Ok.

Ramon Robles (00:37):

Alright. Alright.

I don’t know if you eat prairie dogs.

Joe Betar (00:42):

No, thank you not unless you want bubonic plague.

Ramon Robles (00:46):

Well, you know if it helps drop weight, I’m sure it will.

Joe Betar (00:48):

Remember that time I had the plague and I lost 25 pounds. The best diet I was ever on. No, my, my, the reason I ask the question is because you can hunt them all in Kansas. Tim Weddington, our guest today is the owner and chief guide of 10 Gauge Outfitters up in Kansas and you can go out there and you can hunt them all in one spot.

And, I enjoyed our conversation with him, man. He seems like a really good guy and very focused on customer experience and, and offering the best, the best opportunities to hunt in a variety of different ways. So, folks join us today with our guest, Tim Weddington of 10 Gauge Outfitters. Tim, where is 10 Gauge Outfitters located?

Tim Weddington (01:23):

It’s located in Kinsley Kansas, which is known as Midway USA. It’s 1651 miles to New York City, 1651 miles to San Francisco.

Joe Betar (01:33):

Awesome. Awesome. And before I forget we’ll bring it up again later. But, you can check out Tim’s website as we, as we talk today. It’s 10 Gauge Outfitters, that’s 10, the number 10 Gauge Outfitters.com. And of course, they have a, a social media presence on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and everything else.

And, I gotta tell you something, man, you guys have some very cool promotional videos on your social media and on your website. Is that something you guys are, is that new or is that something you guys have done for a while now?

Tim Weddington (02:03):

No, we’ve been doing it for a while. I mean, we just try to step it up a little bit each time on the latest promo video. We had done was just over the top and, it’s been a great hit. Everybody seems to love it. And it’s, it’s unbelievably. I mean, it lets you know what we’re all about without you actually being here.

Joe Betar (02:28):

Yep. Yep. And, before I get off that topic of videography, do you guys, do you ever have clients come in or group of clients that come in that bring a camera in or want to hire a cameraman to film their trips?

Tim Weddington (02:40):

We have guys that want to hammer that wanna hire cameramen to come in. Ii I try to steer them away from like bringing your own guys and, you know, staging something and we used to do TV shows years ago and it was such a, it was so difficult.

I mean, it was just, you know, trying to get the perfect shot and, and, and, you know, trying to get a special deer or a, you know, a special shot in and it, it was just, it just wasn’t natural and I decided, you know what, let’s just, let’s just steer away from that and, and, you know, I’m, I’m more of a purist, I’m there because I want the guy to just sit there and be shaking in his shoes with an animal sitting in front of him and, and, and once we get to the culmination of it, the harvest that the guy’s just, you know, basically in tears has been such a great experience and that’s hard to do with, you know, trying to get a TV crew and, and, you know, that’s a, that’s a difficult task to try to capture it is.

Joe Betar (03:48):

And, you know, I was involved in outdoor television for several years and it’s, you know, when you have to do the cutaways and recreate shots and recreate reactions and things like that. It, it, it takes a little, a little of shine off of the, off the experience versus being a little more just instinctive and, and seeing those initial reactions when somebody’s out hunting.

So, believe me, I get it. It’s, it’s people think outdoor television’s easy. It ain’t easy. It’s not easy to set up. It’s not easy to film. It’s not easy to, to, to have, you know, to get a show in the can. That’s, you know, actually representative of everything that you guys do out there.

And, you know, the, the, the title of our program is called Hunting Matter. So we always like to ask our guests tell us a bit about, where you grew up, how you first got involved in hunting and the outdoors. And then we want to talk a little bit more about 10 Gauge Outfitters.

Tim Weddington (04:32):

Sure. So, you know, I remember my bio tells you, you know, I started out shooting 10 cans at, at, you know, I was nine years old. And, you know, my dad took me out with a felt gun and let me shoot 10 cans. And then once II, I proved to myself that I was worthy and not dangerous.

He handed over a little 22 grand fire to me and, and away, I went hunting rabbits and squirrels and, and, man, from that point on it just grew and grew and grew my love of hunting and, you know, now it’s kind of, it’s come full circle because I still do some, some big game hunting myself, but not near as much as I used to.

I mean, I used to be just ate up with it and now, I actually get more enjoyment, taking people for a hunt of a lifetime themselves and, and seeing their expressions and seeing their joy and, and it’s just for me, that’s what it’s all about. It’s really not about me anymore.

Joe Betar (05:39):

Yeah. You know, I’m glad you brought that up because, you know, I grew up the same way. My mother took me down an old dirt road when I was a kid and taught me how to shoot a BB gun. And then I, I made the same transition. She handed me my father’s single shot 410 and is 22 and I went out and started shooting squirrels and rabbits.

And I think, you know, we, we kind of take it for granted that we were lucky enough to grow up in that, in that type of environment. But I think, you know, you forget about those opportunities. People are like, well, let’s go, we’re gonna go bird hunting or we’re gonna go deer hunting and that sort of thing.

I think people forget, the, the, the, the lesson to be learned in hunting small game. You know, rabbits and squirrels and watching wildlife and watching how they react in different weather conditions and, and that sort of thing and, and becoming a proficient shot on, you know, smaller game before you move up to big game.

I mean, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s sometimes that gets lost in all the shuffle, you know, as we get older and we forget, but some of my fondest memories were climbing, you know, walking the hills of a pipeline in Northeast Louisiana as a kid chasing rabbits and squirrels. And my mom would drop me off at sun up and wouldn’t pick me up till sundown.

I mean, I would stay the whole day out there probably longer if she’d let me. So, I’m glad you brought that up because we, we forget that and, you know, people that are just coming into hunting, whether you’re, whether you’re young or whether you’re, you’re a novice hunter or you’ve never been hunting before. Squirrels and rabbits are the way to go in my mind.

Tim Weddington (06:57):

Yeah. I mean, it’s, it’s going to, it’s gonna give you a feel of nature and it’s not, it’s not, you know, it’s not high pressure and it’s, it’s easy.

And it, it, it, it’s takes you into a part of, of hunting and, and it’s, you’re not sitting there waiting for hours on games. I mean, you’re, you’re just out looking for, for rabbits and you’re looking in the trees for squirrels.

I mean, I used to go like you, I would get up at daylight and I would go down in the woods and I would just sit and wait till I saw the squirrel start moving and then I’d go chase them. But, I mean, that’s truly what it was all about for me. Yeah. Can you hear that air conditioner in the background?

Ramon Robles (07:41):

No, I cannot.

Tim Weddington (07:44):

Ok, I was gonna turn that thing off. That was too new or.

Ramon Robles (07:47):

Can you hear ours?

Tim Weddington (07:49):

NO, no.OK

Joe Betar (07:52):

So, so, so have you always been involved in the, in the outfitting business or what did you do before you got, you got involved in this world?

Tim Weddington (08:01):

No, I just, you know, I like to hunt but I, I actually was, got into tool and die making, injection molding and, got into management and, basically retired as a, as a plant manager of a company. And, I decided, you know what, I’m, I’m tired of working for someone else. I want to go chase something I wanna do.

And, just by the grace of God, did this, did this 10 Gauge Outfitters get started? I mean, it’s, it’s truly that way because if you had asked me, when I was in my early thirties, hey, you gonna be running an outfitting business and, and that’s all you do. I’d have told you. You’re crazy.

You know, I, I wanted to, I had plans of retiring early and, and going and seeing, traveling and seeing the world and, and you know, this right here has just been, you know, it, it was just by the grace of God that it happened because it was not a plan of mine whatsoever.

It, it’s funny because I, I took a job in, in, in Wichita, Kansas at a, at a injection molding company that made their own containers. And then they were a manufacturing company, also, and they made cleaning products. And, I took a job as a plant manager with this company and I started renting some ground out here in Kansas just for me and the kids to hunt on.

CHAPTER 2

Hunting Offerings at 10 Gauge

Tim Weddington  (09:29):

And I thought, well, you know what, why don’t I, you know, cover the cost of this just by selling a couple of hunts. And, I sold a couple of hunts and those guys went back and told a couple of their friends and, and, and then the next thing, you know, we’re overrun with people.

And, you know, that just doesn’t happen, you know, that that’s, it’s our love of the, of the hunting and our, our love of meeting people and, you know, God just putting us in that place and, and now, TG The Outfitters has a 6000 square foot lodge, we can handle up to 26 clients at once. And, we have 23 bird dogs and we maintain a little over 18,000 acres.

Joe Betar (10:20):

So, so you’re so you’re making this transition in your life and you’re taking a few people hunting. I mean, what was the, what was kind of the, the catalyst between you sitting down and thinking and going? Well, hey, maybe I can make a living at this.

And now, what’s the next step? I mean, was it, was it a family discussion? Did you kinda just go, I’m just gonna do this and start getting, acquiring access to more land. Tell us a little bit about that transition.

Tim Weddington (10:43):

Well, it was really more just, once I took a couple of clients and I mean, I, the, the, the first two clients I had were two brothers who were guides themselves.

They were out of Colorado and, I got to talking to them and, and, and finding out what their life was like and, and, and I enjoyed their company so much and then the next thing I know they went and told several of their clients about the hunting opportunity they had with me and their clients are calling me saying, hey, will you take us? And it, it just rolled like a big old snowball from that point.

And we got to a point where I said, ok, I can’t do, I can’t, I can’t work in the corporate world and do this too. I’ve got to make a decision and at that, at that time, our kids were getting close to being out of high school.

Because at that time I traveled back and forth from Wichita, which is 100 and 20 miles out to the ground that we had and then some ground we started leasing and, our kids were getting older and, and they were getting ready to get out of high school and we’re like, you know what, I’m, I’m gonna make this move and, I decided that this is, you know, we’re gonna do this, I’m gonna do this full time.

And, so I guess it was more, you know, it was a little bit of a family decision discussion but it, it’s something I always wanted to do in the back of my mind. You know, I always wanted to do something in the hunting industry, but I really never thought, hey, you can make a living at this and, we don’t farm II, I don’t farm for, like agriculture or, for cattle whatsoever.

We do have all the equipment that all farmers have. But we have it so we can plant food plots and, improve areas for wildlife. We have a spade truck, we have, tractors and every piece of equipment a farmer has. Other than we don’t, we don’t have a combine because we don’t harvest anything.

And, we’ll take in an area and if it doesn’t have trees on it, we go spade trees off another piece of property and, and, and set it up the way we want it to, you know, whether it’s being, putting in roost trees or, or putting in trees that’s gonna help attract the deer in.

And, we just increase, you know, enhance the properties and, it’s, it’s, I just can’t believe how, how it started out. I mean, how it went from nothing to what it is today.

Joe Betar (13:15):

Yeah, that, that’s amazing. And, you know, you, you bring up a good point. I think a lot of people, we forget if we’re your client, we roll in, we’re expecting a great weekend or a week or whatever. We forget the fact that this is a year round full time job. I mean, you guys are, you guys are working all year round to prep for hunting season and hunting season comes along and you hunt.

Tim Weddington  (13:36):

Exactly. I mean, we have full time employees that work year round along with myself along with my wife and we work at this year round and, you know, the prep takes way more time than the actual hunting does.

But to have to have quality hunts and, and to be able to produce phenomenal numbers of game, you have to manage the land, you got to manage the, the animals and you don’t do that by, by working at it during hunting season, you do that by doing it 365 days a year.

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Yeah, let’s talk a little bit about the hunting that you guys have there. What, what type of hunting do you offer at? 10 gauge? Outfitters?

Tim Weddington (16:30):

Well, at 10 gauge we offer, you know, our, our number one thing is gonna be bird hunting. You’re gonna be able to come pheasant hunting and quill hunting. We have phenomenal populations of pheasant and we have phenomenal populations of quail and that’s our number one thing. Number two, we do some prey dog shooting.

We have, oh about 15 different towns of prey dogs and, we have quite a few prairie dog shooters come out in May and June and then we also have very quality, high quality deer hunting. We don’t take a lot of clients, but we, we do take a few and then, we have some phenomenal turkey hunting.

Because most of our property is on the Arkansas River. So they got, we have roost trees which, you know, Kansas is not known for having trees. So anywhere you got trees, you generally have turkeys. So, the properties that we have are, are loaded with turkeys.

Joe Betar (17:24):

And you guys have Rios up there, right?

Tim Weddington (17:27):

That is correct. It is.

Joe Betar (17:28):

How’s your turkey population looking? Because, you know, we, we read reports, we hear things, we see the studies and we, we, we, we’re kind of in a decline in turkey populations across the United States as a whole. How, how are the turkey populations in the state of Kansas in, in your area specifically?

Tim Weddington (17:43):

It is exactly the same. I mean, there is a decline, across the United States and, and it’s in Kansas also, our numbers are, have definitely gone down from what they, what they used to be. And I really, I really can’t put my finger on it.

It’s not hunting pressure for us because we don’t, you know, we don’t take that many clients turkey hunting when we don’t see the turkeys, you know, because I don’t want to go out there and, and not have a client be successful and being successful is having a turkey in front of them. That is harvest, that’s success.

But if you don’t have enough numbers, you, you, you know, I’m not going to take somebody out there and, and we just chase and chase and chase. So we try to, we try to hunt based on our populations. And I’ve seen, I’ve seen a decline. Now, one of our things was we had a burn on one of our, on a big part of our property on the river, about 23 years ago and it burned up about 12,000 acres.

Not all of it was our ground, but it burned a 12,000 acre toll. And that, and that really hit the, the turkey habitat killed a lot of trees. And, and a burn is generally really good for wildlife.

But when it, when it gets into our trees and it, and it happened right during the mating season and when there should have been clutches on the ground and, and I think that hit our area. You know, that, that’s what, that’s what I, I saw a big drop in the turkey population. But, you know, I’m a, I’m a very avid turkey hunter. I still travel all over the United States to hunt turkeys.

And I can tell you the last two years, every state we go to is just tough. And I, I grew up in Tennessee and, going home to hunt turkeys in Tennessee is, is tough, right. Now. And I, and I hunt a lot in Missouri and it is so tough to hunt turkeys right now because the numbers are down. I do, I do believe that.

CHAPTER 3

Wildlife Populations and Conservation

Joe Betar (19:47):

Yeah. You know, and conversations with biologists and things that it’s, it’s a, it’s, it varies a little bit state by state, but the general consensus is, you know, the, the burns, like you’re talking about habitat issues, urban sprawl, water water issues in some area. And, and I think there’s a big resurgence to kind of refocus again on the turkey like we did many, many years ago to kind of go, ok.

What can we do to help this problem? Because I’ve noticed it too.

I, I love turkey hunting. But I’ve noticed it here in Texas where we typically, we, we take 12 guys out over a couple of weeks and every, everybody used to get a tom and it’s not the same anymore.

It’s, it’s harder and you hate to see that because they did so well for so many years. But I think people are taking a harder look about how they’re managing their property. And, you know, I was talking to a guy you, you, I think you talked to him Ramon before Leo Martinez who runs the DEA Ranch in South Texas. And you know, he and I had an aha moment.

We were listening to a podcast talking about habitat and things. He’s like one of the biologists who was a, a big, big turkey expert in the southeast said the thing is, is, yeah, it’s great to have cover and great to have tall grass. But you need to have areas on your property where the grass is cut below the sideline of a turkey.

And the reason is, yeah, predation. And the reason is they don’t feel safe in those tall grassy areas. They can’t see 360. And that was kind of a, you know, one of those things where I went. Oh, duh.

Tim Weddington (21:09):

Yeah. Let me ask you as you, as you sit and think about that, think about now when you go out and how many raccoons do you see on your game? Cameras? And how many skunks do you see? And how many possums do you see?

I mean, I can tell you on ours, our, our, our, I mean, I beg, I beg guys to come hunt raccoons, because on our feeders, you know, Kansas, we’re allowed to bait and on a feeder in the evenings. Now we’ll see 20 raccoons.

And so if you think about that, I mean, the coons and the skunks and the possums are nest braiders and that has to be playing ac on our, on our hatches.

Joe Betar (21:53):

And they’re lazy. They’ll go after anything they can get to.

Tim Weddington (21:58):

And it’s, it, I think that’s an issue that needs to be addressed because it’s, I have seen a, a, an actual, you know, bloom in that population and a decline in, in the turkey populations and in the areas that those turkeys that I’m seeing a drop in, we’re seeing a drop in the pheasants and the quail also.

Joe Betar (22:18):

Yeah, that’s, that’s about, we don’t.

Tim Weddington (22:20):

We don’t, we don’t see that drop, for birds in areas where we don’t have, you know, where the open pastures are and they’re just plum brush and all where the birds really love that. Coons and possums don’t really love that.

There’s no place for them to really hide. They’re not a burrowing. They like trees, they like old stumps. So we don’t see it in those areas. And I truly think that’s an area that, that we’re losing, we’re losing our, our hunches to predation.

Joe Betar (22:49):

Yeah. I, I, yeah, I can absolutely see how that could be a problem. Maybe you need to start scheduling weekend coon raccoon and skunk shoots instead of prairie dog shoots.

Tim Weddington (22:59):

That, that would be, that would be great. I would, I beg people to do that. I mean, we go to trappers and tell them all the time. Hey, man, I will, I will give you a map you can have at it. The only problem is, is you’re not allowed to leave until you have a truck full of coons.

And, it’s tough to.

Ramon Robles (23:16):

I’m sorry, it’s just tough to find people that would do that or what.

Tim Weddington  (23:20):

It’s tough. It’s tough to find people that want to do it. I mean, if you’ve ever done that, you know, you know, trapping is a tough thing to do. I mean, it’s not easy. It takes a lot of work, it takes a lot of miles on a vehicle.

Ramon Robles (23:32):

And what, what do people who do, do that do with the coons?

Tim Weddington (23:36):

I mean, they generally, when the pelts are, when there’s a good market for pelts, they just coon, they skin them and they sell the pelts, don’t eat them.

Ramon Robles  (23:45):

You used to eat raccoon, didn’t you bear?

Joe Betar (23:47):

I grew up in Louisiana. I’ve eaten just about everything.

Yeah. Yeah. Armadillo on the half shell, I’ve told you that armadillo on the half shell, one of my favorite meals.

Ramon Robles (23:57):

So, Tim, for a hunter like me, who’s very green hasn’t done many hunts. What of these, animals that you offer for hunting? Would you recommend?

Tim Weddington (24:09):

I start out shooting prey dogs because it’s, it’s, it’s easy. It’s high volume. You learn how to shoot, you learn your weapon really well, you learn how to shoot and win.

You, you learn how to shoot distances and, and, you know, it just gets you in touch with, you know what you’re actually trying to do here.

You know, a lot of guys, I always hear they, they, you know, they see magazines or they see shows and man, they just want to go after a deer and they want to go after a monster deer. And that is a tough animal when you’re trying to kill a five year old deer to do if you don’t understand how that animal is because he’s not going to put up with any mistakes from you whatsoever.

And someone that has not done it, they just don’t understand that. They don’t understand the complexity to, to harvesting an animal that’s five plus years old. It’s easy to kill a, a AAA year old buck. I mean, that’s simple. Because he’s, he’s pretty stupid. He doesn’t know his environment.

He doesn’t pay attention to it. But when you try to harvest a deer, that’s five years old, which is what it takes to get to a, you know, a deer is not going to be fully mature until he’s five years old. So it takes a five year old deer to get as, as much antler growth as he’s gonna get. And that deer right there is unbelievably smart.

Ramon Robles (25:31):

And I’m just looking here at your hunts and I’m, I’m, I forget how small or I, I forget the size of prairie dogs. What kind of ammunition do you use to hunt? A prairie dog?

Tim Weddington (25:40):

Most guys are shooting a 223 because it’s inexpensive. But I mean, it, it’s all over the board. Guys are shooting 6.5224. Valve.

But, you know, you’re shooting a, a 7.5 inch target at 300 plus yards.

Ramon Robles (25:57):

Yeah. Is there anything left of the prairie dog after a, a creed. More bull.

Tim Weddington  (26:05):

Should we really talk about that?

It, it, it, I mean, that’s part of the fun, that thing. Absolutely exploding.

And there, you know, we have videos on it. We’ve been banned, we’ve actually been banned from YouTube because of some of our videos. Because they were so graphic.

Joe Betar (26:25):

Oh, wow. Yeah, it’s, you know, the thing I like about parade dog shooting is you can get a whole group. It, it’s that it’s like duck hunting and things like that. You can get a group together and you guys can all line up and you can shoot and laugh and, you know, have a good time and.

Tim Weddington  (26:37):

Poke fun at each other because somebody’s not hitting a single one.

There’s a lot of camaraderie to it. But it also, it teaches you, you know, the basic shooting and hunting skills. I mean, going and shooting the can is easy that, you know, as you’re squeezing the trigger that can, is not moving whatsoever.

In a hunting situation that’s completely different.

You know, in, in the, in the blink of an eye, that animal can move and you can miss it.

So, it’s a great way just to learn how to shoot in a hunting environment.

Joe Betar (27:15):

Yeah. And the other thing is people don’t understand. They like prairie dogs. Oh, they’re cute. They like squirrels but the amount of damage a prairie dog can do to. A piece of property is amazing.

Tim Weddington (27:26):

Yeah, we don’t call it damage. We call it devastating. They will, they will, they will ruin a half a section of ground, which is, you know, that’s gonna be 320 acres. They can do that in about two years when I say ruin it. They’ll leave every piece of grass off of it and there’ll be nothing left.

Joe Betar (27:45):

Well, because they eat to the surface and below, you know, they don’t, they don’t just take the tops off the, off the forage. So they’re, they’re pretty devastating.

Ramon Robles (27:56):

I had no clue. I mean, I saw him at Devil’s Tower and it’s a thing out there, you know, there’s a parking spot for him and, but I had no idea. So they’re, they’re like, what’s the word? Like hogs here and maybe not invasive.

Tim Weddington (28:12):

They’re just like your hogs. I mean, and they, you know, hogs destroy your ground. That’s our hog. We don’t have, we don’t have pigs. I mean, knock on wood. There are no pigs in Kansas.

It’s too wide open and everyone can just shoot the crap out of them if you, you know, and, and if you’re a, a gosh, if you’re a farmer and you got pigs, it’s well known. If your pigs get out, you might as well kiss them. Goodbye.

Joe Betar (28:38):

There you go. Yeah. And the other thing is if you’re running cattle or horse, horses or cattle on your property, they’ll break horse steps in that hole, breaks the leg. You’ve lost your horse. I mean, it’s just there. I mean, Tim and the guys at TG are doing, doing a good service to the environment, you know, by doing these, these type on it is pretty crazy.

Ramon Robles (28:59):

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Joe Betar (31:25):

What kind of quail do you guys hunt up there?

Tim Weddington (31:26):

Tim, they’re Bob White. Bob White.

Joe Betar (31:29):

Ok.

Tim Weddington (31:29):

And I mean, it’s phenomenal populations. It is, it’s so wild because I have guys come out prairie dog shooting. Well, that’s, you know, prairie dog shooting. We only shoot them in May and June. So May, that’s the breeding season for quail and you see them nonstop out on the road, you hear them calling and guys go, what is that?

I’m like, that’s quail. What? You’ve got that many quail running around. It’s, it’s crazy and, and like I told you, I, I grew up in Tennessee and, and back when I was, you know, 1011, 12 years old, you had to hunt fairly hard, but you could find a couple of covers of, well, you could not go back to Tennessee and hunt a phobic.

Well, now, unless you’re hunting on a game farm and it’s pretty much that way everywhere and, and, and that’s not how we are out in Kansas. And it’s about the only place that you really can hunt a mixed bag of birds that I know of that are, you know, pre range. You can hunt peasants and we join hunt quail in the afternoons.

Joe Betar (32:31):

Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Texas. I mean, you know, we’re up and down year to year. It’s been a real struggle for the quall population in the state. We’re all around the incline right now. But, it’s tough. That’s, that’s cool to be able to go out and hunt pheasant quail on the same day. That’s, that’s unique. You don’t, you don’t see that a lot.

Well, you definitely don’t see it with the pheasant here in Texas. And you go to the Panhandle, you can hunt free-range pheasant, but you’re not gonna see it. The quail populations. If you want to go quail, you gotta go to South Texas and, you know, there’s no pheasant down there unless somebody’s doing put birds. But, but yeah, that’s, that’s very, very unique.

CHAPTER 4

Renovated Lodge and Amenities

Joe Betar (33:03):

What, what is it? You know, I, I went through your website in depth and Ramon’s shopping around on there right now. I can see the, the dollar signs in his eyes. He’s thinking about which, which one he wants to book. But you guys, you guys have a lodge out there that you, that you renovated. Tell us about that because that’s a very cool, very cool project.

Tim Weddington  (33:21):

Or a large, large, is a schoolhouse start with.

And we bought that, oh, probably 12 to 14 years ago at an auction. And we, we remodeled that and that’s where, that’s where our second stage of lodging began. When we started this business. We actually had a house trailer.

And, and my wife and I always laughed. We’re thinking, I can’t believe we had people stay in that house trailer because it was, it was bad, but people, they didn’t care, they wanted to hunt.

And, and now what we have, is, is, is, you know, pretty impressive and, and, and we build it ourselves. We, we built it. When I say build it ourselves, there, there were no contractors involved. I designed it. I, I sit down with my wife, she played around on Pinterest and figured out all the, all the design for the inside and, and we built it.

So we took that, we took that little schoolhouse and we remodeled it and, and tore it down to basically studs and rebuilt it, rewired, it, Replumbed it. And then in two years time, that was overrun, we, we, we didn’t have enough space for people. So we thought, well, what do we do here?

And, and then we decided to add another a little over 50 5500 square feet to that and done another launch to it. And then that lodge there has AAA you know, a bar in it has a big game room in it that it has a bedroom and a bathroom for each, you know, each group. You know, you’re not sharing, you don’t have community baths or anything like that.

So we decided, you know what people don’t like that, they’re gonna want to have their own bathroom. So we built bedrooms, each bedroom has its own bathroom. And then, and then people started wanting to go outside and have do, do more things outside. So we built this unbelievable what we call an outdoor kitchen. And it’s on the website there.

It’s an outdoor pavilion type thing with a big TV, and a, and a fireplace. And then we have a whole hog smoking pit and we have a, a wood fired pizza oven out there where we cook pizzas in the evening for people you put your own pizza together and we throw it in the oven and in 2.5 minutes, your pizza’s done.

But it’s, you know, people just eat it up. So we’re always trying to look at what the clients, what clients tell us what, what feedback they give us and, and what their questions are asking us to do. Right now. We’re in a project of building a big fishing pond.

And, and we’re gonna add some cabins to that because we have people that wanna do it, do yourself like more stuff and, and then we have guys that want to go fishing in the afternoons after they shoot para dogs. And, so we’re, we’re working on that. So we’re, each time we’re trying each year we’re trying to, to figure out, hey, what can we do to make it just a little bit better?

Joe Betar (36:24):

Yeah. Hey, listen, a whole hog cooker and a pizza oven on the back porch is you had me, you had me a pizza.

Tim Weddington (36:33):

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But, you know, we just want people to, we want them to feel at home. We want them to feel like this is their place and, and, and, you know, enjoy the cama enjoy. The hunting. Hunting is phenomenal and we work really hard at it. You know, that if you don’t get a limit of pheasants, it’s because you can’t shoot.

And if you don’t get a limited, well, it’s because you can’t shoot it, it’s not because of the numbers of birds are not there. And, you throw that in with what we provide as far as the amenities and the experience and, and people just, just, they love it.

And that’s, that’s what’s made us grow more than anything is because you guys come up and you, you have a group of six guys and those six guys go home and they get six more guys and then they break off into two different groups and they, it just grows and grows and grows.

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Joe Betar (40:05):

Folks were talking today with Tim Weddington, the owner and guy owner and, and the chief guide. I’m gonna call him the chief guide cook bottle washer. All that of 10 Gauge Outfitters, check out their website at 10 Gauge Outfitters.com.

That’s the number 10 Gauge Outfitters.com, Tim. One thing I always, I’ve always been curious, I’ve never been in the outfitting business. I’ve always been the guy who shows up and says, where’s my pizza?

But how do you, how do you and your staff? You know, we’re coming in, let’s say Ramon and I are coming up for a trip first time there. We’re all excited. We’re pumped and I know you, I know you love what you do but you know, you’re rolling the group out one day and the next day you got another group rolling in.

How do you and your guides keep, enthusiastic and, and, and greeting new people like, you know, we’re, this is our first time there and you’re kinda like, you know, I guess in the human mindset is we’re the only customer you got, we, we’re the first ones you got, we’re the best you got whatever. But you guys have to, you guys, you guys have to recharge for a new group coming in. So how do you, how do you, how do you do that?

Tim Weddington (41:04):

Yeah, it’s not really that hard, you know, it’s not because we enjoy hearing your story and everybody has a different story.

It’s never the same and, and we want to hear that story and then, you know, once you invite us into that story, then we start trying to figure out how can we craft what we’re doing to fit into your story and that’s what we try to do and that, that’s what makes it so fun and it, it, it’s really is not, it’s not really, you don’t have to get fired up in charge of the new group.

It’s generally we were excited because we got a group coming in in 2 to 3 days and it’s gonna be a whole new, a whole new story. And how do we fit that story?

Ramon Robles (41:53):

All right. So you’re gonna forgive me because I’m, I’m, I keep circling back to this. I’ve never heard of prayer dog hunting. And I’m looking at the fa Qs and it says, bring a flat shooting rifle, like a 223 or a 22 like, and bring 200 to 400 rounds. Holy mackerel. I mean, I mean, you’re shooting.

Tim Weddington (42:14):

Oh, gosh, that’s, that, that’s a very conservative estimate too. I mean, I’ve honestly seen guys come out here and burn 1000 rounds a day with an A R platform, you know, and a brass catcher on there and they’re just as, as fast as they can fill a clip in there.

And it’s funny because the evening before their morning shoot, they’ll be sitting outside watching TV, having a drink and they’re shoving clips filling them pool and they, you know, you burn up some ammunition. I mean, there’s, you have to understand in a field there’s thousands and thousands of prey dogs. Each hole could have a family of 15 to 18 in it.

CHAPTER 5

Safety and Dog Etiquette

Ramon Robles (42:56):

Wow, you just go at it. I love that man. That, that’s exciting because any time I’ve been hunting it’s, you know, you’re not gonna need more than five or six bullets for, you know, the white tail here. And, so when I read 2 to 400 I got excited. I’ll see you in September.

Tim Weddington (43:13):

There you go. Now, September is even something even more special because in September we shoot prey dogs in the morning and then come in and have lunch in the afternoon and we go to a dove field in the evening and we shoot, dove over water.

Ramon Robles (43:26):

Well, I can do that.

That is fantastic.

Joe Betar  (43:33):

Not a lot of lazy leisure time if you don’t want it to be up there in 10 Gauge Outfitters. Tim, you guys go ahead. Love it.

Tim Weddington (43:43):

It’s nonstop shooting.

Joe Betar (43:44):

That’s awesome. That’s awesome. You guys have, you know, looking at the website, you guys have a, have a pretty good stable of guides there. What, tell us a little bit about your guides. How do you find them? How do you, how do you, you know, how do you vet them? We won’t tell them your secrets. If they’re listening to the program, we’ll just bleep this part out.

But, you know, it’s, listen, being a manager in different fields, personnel management is always the worst part of the job. But, you know, it’s, it’s the hunting world. So maybe it’s a little bit different versus me hiring an accountant or somebody. But, what, what are you, what are you looking for in your, in your guides.

Tim Weddington (44:20):

First off that you gotta find a guy that is personal and, and you know, he is, he’s, I always call it. He’s a warm to a person when you first greet him. It seems like it’s easy to talk to him and, you know, when you meet that person, it seems like it’s really difficult to talk to him.

That’s not the type of guy that I want, I want the guy to, you, you feel like, wow. This guy, this guy cares about what he’s doing. He’s open, he’s sincere, he’s warm about it. And that’s the kind of guy that I look for. You can teach him how to hunt and, and, and how to understand the game in, in, in my area.

But you can’t teach him to be, you know, just a, just a, a warm greeting person. That’s what I want and then, you know, safety’s got to factor into that too, you know. Do they, do they think about? Oh, well, how is a guy holding a gun or, you know, has he got his finger inside the trigger housing?

What has he got? You know, and that’s what we look for and because we want guys to have a, you know, a great trick, enjoy their guide, but the guy has to stay on them to, to make sure that they’re being safe and you probably would ask my clients and my client to tell you that that going out with me.

I’m gonna scream at you and holler at you all the time because I want you to have a good time. But I want you to be safe and when you have to understand when there’s that much shooting going on and you got, you know, 20 guns in the field, you have to just stay on top of it.

Ramon Robles (45:47):

Yeah, that makes sense.

Joe Betar (45:49):

Yeah. Yeah. You know, with, with, I know, with pheasant hunting, you know, you’ve got, you’ve got groups in the field and, and Ramon and the thing is that you’ve gotta be aware of your surroundings, you gotta be aware of the birds. You gotta be aware of the dogs, you gotta be aware of the guide, right?

You know, you don’t want to be passing shots across somebody else’s area. It’s, it’s, it’s, yeah, it’s not, it’s not a thing where you go out and just go, hey, we’re just gonna go out and shoot some birds. I mean, you really, you definitely need to be safe and pay attention. So, I, I Tim, I hear what you’re saying about, you know, making sure your guides are safe and screaming at your hunters.

I mean, I’ve been out there before. I’ve had a guide yell at me and say, hey, man, you don’t need to be pulling so far to the right. You know, it’s, we’ve got another guy over here, another group over there or whatever. So I get it, you know, bird hunting in the field, walking side by side is different.

So when people are hunting pheasant in your part of the world, are they hunting in snow? It depends on the weather. It depends on the season because, I mean, I’ve hunted, I’ve hunted Pheasant in the Panhandle where I’ve walked through waist deep snow before and loved it that much.

Tim Weddington (46:44):

We don’t have that much snow.

You know, it’s generally cold. And we want it to be cold because the dogs work better when it’s cold. But we don’t, we typically have a lot of snow and it, it’s, that’s not really an issue for us. If you’re, you know, you’re talking about hunting in snow, I mean, when you get into waste deep snow, it’s pretty much just a dog and a bird. It’s not you anymore.

You can’t keep up and the, the, the feather he’ll get on top of that snow and run and the dog will go after him and then, and then it’s just between him and the dog, it’s not between you, you’re not involved anymore. You can’t keep up. So, we don’t, we don’t see those situations too much when you get big drifts that are waist deep. But, it’s generally cold and, and that’s what we want.

But we, we don’t hunt rope rocks. We Hunt grass.

Which is, that’s probably the hardest part of our pheasant hunting is, it is strenuous. You know, your, your hip fletchers are gonna be on fire the first morning. Because you’re walking in waist high grass and you can’t even see the ground. You’re dragging your feet to it and guess what? We’re trying to keep up with pheasants.

Just gonna sit there and wait on us and the dogs aren’t gonna allow you to do that. So you got to keep up with the pheasants got to keep up with the dogs.

Joe Betar (47:60):

What kind of dogs do you guys work there on your property?

Tim Weddington (48:03):

We’ve done German, German short hairs.

It’s all we run.

We have found that those dogs seem to have the most endurance and the most drive and can do it every day. So that’s the, that’s the breed that we stuck with. And, that’s all we run. Now, we do run some for quail hunting. We do run some English cockers just for flush dogs. But, for pheasant hunting, we pretty much run short hairs only.

Joe Betar (48:29):

Yeah, that makes sense. They’re, they’re an incredible working dog. So if, if, you know, if a guy, if you’ve got a hunter or hunters that are coming out and they’ve got dogs that are trained, do you ever let people bring their own dogs or is that just a hassle for you guys?

Tim Weddington (48:42):

We, we generally try to, to, to sway people away from that? I mean, you’ve got your, you got your guy that, that, that’s the only reason he wants to go hunting is watch his dog work and I get that, but he has to understand. Well, now you’ve got to have a group big enough to hunt on your own because we’re not going to mix our dogs with your dogs.

We don’t want to have an accident where dogs get mad at a dog for retrieving a dog, retrieving a bird, and get into a little scuffle. So we don’t risk that. And then I, you know, we can’t have two different groups out there because the other group might not like your dog.

You know, he’s not your dog, he’s not, it’s not your pet and they don’t like the way he hunts. So we always try to deter that and say, hey, you guys really need to go experience working behind a dog that hunts every single day because the one that just hunts on the weekends or every other weekend, it’s not even close to how a dog hunts in the field when he does it every day.

Joe Betar (49:36):

Yeah, that, that makes sense. I mean, you, you get, you get dogs from different packs and groups together. It’s, it’s, it’s a recipe for disaster sometimes. But, that makes that makes absolute sense. I just, I’ve been, you know, I’ve been not a guy per se, but I’ve hosted hunts where people are like, well, can I bring my dog?

I’m like, nah, the property owner already has dogs probably best not to, you know, and they’re like, they, sometimes they get their feelings hurt but, you know, it’s, it’s, it makes it, it turns it from a pleasurable and enjoyable experience to sometimes a nightmare. You know, when you get in, you get in those situations.

Tim Weddington (50:04):

So your pet got into a fight with another dog and you had to go to the vet. I mean, you just ruin your hunt. So, we, we try to stay away from that.

CHAPTER 6

Booking and Customer Service

Joe Betar (50:14):

So people that are looking at booking a hunt with you guys, they can, they can go, they can contact you through your website and of course you’ve got phone numbers and then things there at 10 Gauge Outfitters, that’s 10, the number 10 Gauge Outfitters.com.

If Ramona and I are just, you know, we’ve got our trip booked and we’re coming in, what, what can we expect? You know, we’re flying in where, where would we fly into? Do you guys pick up? Do we drive out? Kinda, kinda give us a little overview of our first day or 1st, 1st few hours with you guys.

Tim Weddington (50:41):

Yeah, most guys are gonna, are gonna fly into either Wichita. It’s 100 and 20 miles to the east of us. And then they’re gonna rent a car and come on out. There’s guys who fly into Dodge City, which is only 36 miles from us, but it’s very limited access and everything routes through Denver.

So going through Denver, November, December and January is always sketchy. You know, you’re allowed to hit weather and you’re allowed to miss flights and then it just turns into a problem. So most guys go to Wichita. We do, we do offer airport pickup out of Dodge City If you have a group together. And we’ll, we’ll run over there. We have a big party bus and pick you up and bring the whole group out.

But, most guys, they, they rent a car and come on out. Once you get to our place, if you’re bird hunting, there’s no, you don’t really use your vehicle anymore. You’ll be in, in our, in our vehicles taking you to and from the hunting fields.

Joe Betar (51:45):

And, let’s see what else? There’s another question I was gonna ask you.

Ramon Robles (51:49):

I was just looking at how small Dodge City was. I didn’t realize it was such a, I mean, such a small city to have service. Surprised me.

Joe Betar (51:57):

It is a very small town and, and, you know, non-resident license and things like that, they can pick that up on the way out to your place.

Tim Weddington (52:07):

Well, I mean, now everything’s done digitally. So you just go on the candy store and a wall, but you buy it and you save it to your phone and there you go.

Joe Betar (52:17):

That was an old man moment there. I asked that question. I should know better because even the state of Texas has gone to, you know, online licensing. So, which is great. Fantastic.

We’ll remind you about ready to book your trip.

Ramon Robles (52:31):

Well, I was just looking at this and, when it, when it, the prices are per day, can you determine how many days you want to stay?

Tim Weddington (52:39):

Yes, those are all prices per day and you just tell us how many days you want to stay and it, it’s all over the board. I mean, I have guys that do two day hunts and then we have guys that do six day hunts.

It just depends on, on what you guys, what your time frame allows you to do.

We, we never did, you know, a lot of guys will laugh for three day hunts or something like that. And then we decided, you know what, let’s just do it on a daily basis. You pick out what you want to do.

Ramon Robles (53:08):

Yeah, that, that I like that flexibility and everybody that shows up has to hunt.

Tim Weddington (53:14):

No, no, we have no hunting guests.

Ramon Robles (53:16):

Ok? Because I was just thinking, you know, maybe my wife would let me stay longer if she came with me.

Tim Weddington (53:24):

That happens a lot to be a.

Joe Betar (53:27):

Pizza oven, Ramone.

Ramon Robles (53:30):

I saw the pictures of their outdoor kitchen.

Joe Betar (53:33):

That’s him. If you can’t tell, we love to eat as much as we do hunt.

Tim Weddington (53:36):

You need to look at the, watch the promo video. You were talking about videos. There’s a promo video on it. Now, one of them, if you watch the one on YouTube, the long one, it’s about a six minute video. But man, you’ll get a really good idea of what everything that we do from the food, to the lodging, to the entertainment, to the, to the hunting.

Ramon Robles (53:56):

I, I see it here. I’m gonna watch that in just a little bit.

Joe Betar (54:01):

What if Tim, somebody had a question they wanted to ask you this? Ok. Listen, I’m thinking about booking a trip with you guys. What is it that makes 10 Gauge Outfitters stand, 10 Gauge Outfitters stand apart from the rest.

I mean, a lot of, a lot, there’s a lot of good Outfitters there. A lot of beautiful properties. A lot of good food, that sort of thing. So, what would be your answer to me if I said, hey, why should I book with you versus somebody else?

Tim Weddington  (54:23):

Well, I’ll tell you because what we tell you we’re gonna do, we’re gonna do. And unfortunately, in the outfitting industry, sometimes that doesn’t happen. You know, somebody’s gonna tell you, you know, let’s just say you’re, you’re booking a deer hunt and you tell the guy, hey, I’m only interested in 100 and 50 inches or bigger deer.

Well, that’s gonna take a special play for you to go do, every place doesn’t have that quality of an animal that you can, you know, see on a daily basis.

And, we’re gonna tell you, yes, we can do this or no, we can’t do this and, and we’re not there just to try to take a sale. I want you to walk away with the hunt of a lifetime and be on your phone as you’re driving home trying to figure out what dates you can get back next year.

Joe Betar (55:21):

Awesome. Awesome. That optimism. Yeah, it sounds like you got a lot of return business. A lot of referral business as well. That’s, that’s what’s, that’s what’s grown you guys over the years is happy customers coming back and bringing their buddies.

Tim Weddington (55:32):

That’s the only thing that, that’s grown us is, is our repeat business and everyone telling their friends about it and their friends coming the next time.

Joe Betar (55:42):

Awesome folks check out 10 Gauge Outfitters. That’s the number 10 Gauge Outfitters.com. Our guest today has been Tim Weddington, the owner and chief guide of 10 Gauge Outfitters. Tim, we really appreciate you taking time out of your vacation. We don’t want to keep you away from your family too long. I know they’ve probably got some chores they need you to do for them.

Tim Weddington (56:02):

They want me to start the smoker.

Joe Betar (56:03):

Oh, there you go. There you go. But man, we really appreciate you taking time away from your vacation, your family to talk to us today. We’ve really enjoyed it and we’ve learned a lot about, about your operation and your passion for doing what you do. So thank you again so much.

Tim Weddington (56:15):

We can’t wait for you guys to come out and do a hunt with us and we appreciate you guys having us on and talking to me about it and let me tell you about 10 G Outfitters.

Joe Betar (56:23):

Thanks man. It’s been a joy hearing your story. Take care.

Ramon Robles (56:28):

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Check the Kansas Dept of Wildlife and Parks website for License requirements. You will need a general Kansas hunting license to hunt pheasant

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